Brent - If the absolute shortest reach and highest stack is your goal, then putting a flat bar on a drop bar frame design with a pile of spacers on the steerer and a high rise stem is the way to go. The Salsa Marrakesh is the first touring bike that uses two different frame geometries based on whether you’d like to use a flat handlebar or a road handlebar. You’ve answered many of the posted questions, but seem hesitant to answer the question regarding the 15kg (33lb) limit of the rear rack? I’m really intrigued by the flat bar version, but have to admit I’m a little confused by the geo.

The drop bar version utilizes six frame sizes, while the flat bar is available in five frame sizes. Is there any frame that comes close to an inbetween small and medium size Fargo, or should I maybe have taken more seriously a Large size Fargo?

I have checked outhe a Salsa,liked it a lot but it would take a fair amount of modification of handle bars, seat etc.

Brian - No, with the desired tire capacity we were shooting for on Marrakesh (700 x 50.8 w/o Fender) it was impossible to use road touring triple or double and achieve fit of both with a reasonable chainstay length.

Many of them are built for competitive riding, but there are also plenty of options for adventure and endurance riding, with bikes that you can comfortably ride from daybreak to dusk.

Salsa Cycles is not responsible for parts or labor required to remove and/or refit and re-adjust the product within the bicycle assembly, including wheel rebuilds.

Both bikes have essentially the same hand positon relative to the bottom bracket both vertically and horizontally. The first is its sponsorship of professional riders who compete in world class mountain bike events. “It’s available as a frameset and as a complete bike, with 26˝ wheels in 42–62cm frame sizes, and with 700c wheels in 56–64cm.” “26˝: 2.1˝ with or without fenders; 700c: 42mm with fenders, 45mm without fenders Individual tire and rim combos affect tire clearance”  (From Surly’s website.) Find a Salsa retailer using the Bike Inventory Online tool on this page (close popup). What’s the hold up?

I feel that this will be my go-to bike for everything. The Marrakesh has a MUCH STIFFER frameset so that it handles a full-load better (it tracks better, doesn’t sway under heavy load or power strokes, etc). I ride a 55 cm Vaya, and a medium Marrakesh is dead-on for sizing. Better yet, produce a Vaya fork with anything cage mounts. This warranty applies only to Salsa Cycles products purchased through an authorized dealer or distributor. Bob - No, the geometry table is correct. As it was, a slightly sloping toptube was still needed, but much less so than the Vaya. Salsa Bikes was founded in 1982 by Ross Shafer. I’m just one of those people who wants everything heavy duty. It may be my backpacking pedigree, but I have never considered bringing more than 40-50lbs of gear bicycle touring with me (that’s still twice what I carry ultralight backpacking, so it’s luxurious). Is it possible that in the frame geometry table, seat tube length and effective top tube length have been switched? All Salsa components, Two-Year Warranty Hi..I’m 5’8” and ride a 54cm Vaya…Just wondering about what size i should be looking at(Flat bar version)..I know it would only be a rough guide..Thanks..

Marrakesh is designed around a 700c/29 (622 ISO) disc brake wheel and is compatible with 700c x 40mm tires with mud guards or up to 29 x 2.0" tires without. I’m drawn to the terrain here, and if you catch me with one of this region’s supreme IPAs in hand, I’ll talk your ear off about my favorite spots. This limited warranty is expressly limited to the repair or replacement of a defective product, at the option of Salsa Cycles, and is the sole remedy of the warranty. So 15kg should still be plenty. I’ve never owned bike with alternator drop outs before. Sorry, this Locator is only available for North American residents.

However I have reach difficulties. Most frame sizes only vary by 20-25mm in toptube length and ~10-20mm in headtube length. It’s one more way we can help get people out to explore the world, and we look forward to seeing the places they’ll go.

Thanks! The Vaya has the same 33lb limit, and is probably a much better all-around bike for most riders ... please explain the weight limitation, and why anyone would be better off with a very limited Marrakesh vs the Vaya? That ownership has not interfered with the soul of Salsa Bikes though, so its bikes are highly prized and sought after by everyone from professional racers to serious explorers and casual off-road enthusiasts.

        |- MD Flat I have 2” tires on it,  AND fenders, and it positively is one of my fave bikes ever, and I’ve ridden my fair share.

Tyler, if you do carry that much weight, you’ll want to distribute it between the front and back, with the heavier items in your front saddle bags and bigger bulkier lighter items in the rear.

In no event shall Salsa Cycles be liable for any loss, inconvenience or damage, whether direct, incidental, consequential, or otherwise resulting from breach of any express or implied warranty or condition of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, or otherwise with respect to our products except as set forth herein.

We list/size our drop bar bikes by effective (horizontal) top tube length.

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